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The US's occupation of Iraq will see to it that the Lion of Babylon rises again .. سنـُبعـَث ُ من جَديد ، وإلى ضَـيـرِِهِـم
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Iraq's Nuclear Mirage ... سَراب السلاح النووي العراقي

Unrevealed Milestones in the Iraqi National Nuclear Program: 1981-1991

معالم وأحداث غير مكشوفة في البرنامج النووي الوطني العراقي 1981-1991

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Friday, April 21, 2006

The veil of 'American Liberation' descends upon Iraqi Women

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Iraqi university graduation ceremony ................................................Demonstrating in Najaf
"Iraqi women did not believe in putting burqa. It wasn’t even in their dictionary. When we saw women wearing it, we said they were not Iraqis. They might be either Yemenis or probably from one of the Arab Gulf countries.
However, some Iraqi women believe in putting the ordinary scarf, especially in religious areas like holy Najaf and Karbala. Most women there wear the scarf in devotion to God or to follow the traditional teachings of Islam.
This no longer exists.
After the U.S.-led occupation to Iraq, religious parties brought by the occupier from neighboring Iran and from other countries imposed their own understanding of the scarf on the secular society. They started forcing women to wear scarves directly and indirectly.
Women, who joined these “religious” and political parties or trends, started the new trend of “religious fashion”: Wearing Burqa and gloves to hide their faces and hands. Not only this, they started giving lectures to the newly joined female members to make them spread the idea of wearing hijab and burqa.
A colleague of mine emailed me a disgusting photo of how this issue is changing the shape of the Iraqi women who once were ones of the most fashionable women in the world in former cosmopolitan cities like Baghdad, Basra, and Mosul. I was so disgusted when I saw the photo. Inside me, I was shouting “Nooooooo. It shouldn’t be like this. We were not like this. Enough distortion and abuse to the women.” (added emphasis)
The New Fashion Brought to Iraq April 18, 2006



PS: I will be away for two weeks. Some Comments may not be moderated and posted.

PS: Leaving you with a final thought on the Iranian-tainted 'Democratic Iraq', the Swiss-cheese 'Constitution' and the Mostly-unknown 'Parliament' :

"Amid all the political confusion in Iraq, Baghdad is swirling with rumors that former prime minister Iyad Allawi is planning a military coup to end the gridlock over the choice of Ibrahim al-Jaafari as prime minister-designate. Coup and counter-coup: The struggle for Iraq April 21, 2006


Comments:
it is an appalling state of affairs when we are wishing for the return of saddam.

The Shia parties currently dominating Iraq have brought this horrible oppression of 50% of Iraqi society.

It makes me question the motives and ethics of people like Jarafri, Sharistani and that nasty interior minister

they may smile wearing western attire, but its a nasty front for them to oppress 50% of Iraqis lik they probably oppress their female familiy members with their twisted, sick and distorted religous beliefs
 
"Orphans in Iraq, who often lack protection, food supplies and medical assistance, require urgent assistance, according to officials at the Orphans Houses Department at the Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs.
"Orphaned children have become a very serious issue," said department director Abeer Mahdi al-Chalabi. "We have 23 orphanages with limited capacity, capable of housing only about 1,600 orphans."
Although there are seven orphanages in the capital, Baghdad, and another 16 in other provinces, "they aren't enough to provide assistance to all the orphans in the country", said al-Chalabi. She went on to point out that the increase in the number of orphans countrywide was an inevitable result of the bombings, assassinations and sectarian violence currently plaguing the country.
According to a 2005 report issued by the US Agency for International Development (USAID), there were some 5,000 orphans in the capital alone, many of whom have been ostracised by society and have little hope of finding education or shelter. "
rising numbers of orphaned children in Iraq
 

ـ"هناك دلائل على ان أكبر التحديات التي تواجه السلطة المركزية في بغداد على مدى الأشهر أو السنوات المقبلة هو مدى قدرتها على حل أو القضاء او تخليص العراق من الميليشيات. فقيادة السلطة المركزية في بغداد، تلتقي من حيث الخلفية الطائفية والحزبية مع هذه الميليشيات الشيعية، لكنها كسلطة مركزية تطمح لبسط نفوذها في أنحاء العراق، والذي لن يكون ممكناً في ظل نفوذ وسلطة هذه الميليشيات. فبينما تنشط جهود الجيش العراقي وقوات الأمن وبدعم من القوات الأميركية جهودها في القضاء على عناصر التمرد في بغداد وفي غرب العراق وبعقوبة والموصل من تكفيريين وبعثيين سابقين، تجد قيادات قوات الأمن العراقية ان علاقتها بالميليشيات الشيعية مسببة للاحباط، خصوصاً في ما يتعلق بازدواجية الولاء بين كثير من أفراد الجيش العراقي الجديد وقوات الأمن وهذه الميليشيات. وقد بدأ الإحباط واضحاً على قائد شرطة البصرة الذي تحدث أخيراً لصحيفة « ذي غارديان» البريطانية قائلاً ان نسبة 20 في المئة فقط من ضباطه ينفذون تعليماته، بينما يأتمر 80 في المئة منهم بالميليشيات الشيعية. وفي البصرة، هناك على الأقل ستة تنظيمات عسكرية هي: «قوات بدر» التابعة لـ «المجلس الأعلى للثورة الاسلامية» برئاسة عبدالعزيز الحكيم، و»جيش المهدي» التابع لمقتدى الصدر، وقوات أخرى تابعة لحزب «الدعوة» و»الفضيلة» و»حزب الله» و»ثأر الله». وفي ظل هذا الوجود لهذه الميليشيات والذي بلغت كثافته الى درجة التقاتل فيما بينها. وفي ظل انعدام الولاء للحكومة المركزية يتنافس أفراد الشرطة في مدينة البصرة بولائهم ما بين «المجلس الأعلى للثورة الاسلامية» و»جيش المهدي»، لذا فإن بعض سيارات الشرطة تحمل على زجاجها الخلفي صوراً إما لعبدالعزيز الحكيم أو صوراً لمقتدى الصدر.ـ
واستطاعت هذه الميليشيات ان تفرض سلوكيات وتصدر قوانين لا علاقة للسلطة المركزية في بغداد بها مثل: فرض الحجاب على النساء ومنع بيع الخمور. إلا ان دورها الرئيسي يكمن في ايجاد الوسائل والمنافذ لتوفير ايرادات لهذه التنظيمات نفسها والذي يتركز في الضغط على القياديين في مؤسسات الدولة، لتوفير الوظائف لمنتسبي هذه الميليشيات وأقاربهم، والأنكى من ذلك ان هذه الميليشيات تقوم بدور ابتزازي تعمل من خلاله على توفير ايرادات لهذه التنظيمات ومنتسبيها. وقد لاحظ أهالي المناطق التي تنشط فيها الميليشيات ان كثيراً من افرادها كان قد أظهر ولاءه للنظام السابق، وما حصل بعد سقوط النظام ان استبدل صور صدام وشعاراته بصور الأئمة وشعارات دينية. ولا شك ان حمل السلاح من قبل أفراد هذه الميليشيات لا يهدف الى الدخول في حرب مع الجيش أو رجال الأمن الذين هم أنفسهم تحت سلطة الأحزاب الشيعية ونفوذها، وانما لعرض العضلات إذا اقتضت الحاجة لتحقيق أهداف سياسية واقتصادية. هذا ويمكن تلخيص أهداف هذه الميليشيات أولاً بتحقيق ايرادات لهذه التنظيمات من خلال:ـ
ـ1- التحالف مع متنفذين للحصول على عقود توريدات وبناء من الدولة.
ـ2- الحصول على نسبة من ايرادات زيارات المراقد الدينية.
ـ3- المشاركة في اعمال تهريب النفط ومنتجاته والذي يقدر خبراء نفطيون ان خسائره تحمّل الخزينة العراقية ما يزيد على 5 بليون دولار سنوياً.ـ

أما الهدف الثاني لهذه الميليشيات فهو العمل على عزل الشعب العراقي أو بالأحرى شيعة العراق عن الانتماء الوطني العراقي من خلال:ـ
ـ1- تعزيز الانتماء الطائفي لشيعة العراق على حساب الانتماء الوطني.ـ
ـ2- ارهاب المواطنين بفرض سلوكيات مثل فرض الحجاب ومنع اختلاط النساء بالرجال ومنع الخمور والذي أدى الى انتشار المخدرات الأكثر ضرراً.ـ
ـ3- منع ظهور تيار وطني شيعي يتفوق فيه انتماؤه الوطني على انتمائه الطائفي.ـ
لذا فقد عملت هذه التنظيمات الشيعية ومنذ سقوط النظام الفردي القميء على تحويل العراق الى حسينية أو مأتم كبير موشحاً بأعلام سوداء، وكأن الحزن والسواد هو ما يبحث عنه الملايين من الشيعة العراقيين الذين عانوا الكثير من نظامه السابق. وقد سببت هذه السلوكيات استياء من الشيعة أنفسهم بما في ذلك رجال دين شيعة عرفوا بنضالهم الطويل ومعاناتهم الكبيرة من نظام صدام، هؤلاء الذين أنفت نفوسهم وقيمهم أن يتحولوا الى قادة ميليشيات أمثال العلامة محمد بحر العلوم الذي صرح في لقاء مع «القبس» بتاريخ 12/4/2006، محذراً الشيعة العراقيين من تيار الانعزالية لذي سيطر على عواطف الكثير منهم:ـ
ـ"لقد تصرفنا كشيعة ونحن أسياد القوم فكنا في الواقع نخالف أنفسنا ومن جملة الأخطاء الفاضحة التي ارتكبناها من دون وعي اننا حولنا بغداد المختلطة وعاصمة الجميع الى حسينية شيعية مكللة بالسواد في المناسبات الدينية وغير الدينية وهذا كله سلوك سي، ويسيء للآخرين. الشيعة تصرفوا بقلب وليس بعقل. نحن في العراق غالبية لكننا أقلية في منطقة الخليج والمحيط العربي الاسلامي، والعالم ليس معنا. وبالتالي لا يمكن عزل العراق عن هذه المحيطات الثلاثة والتقوقع في زاوية المذهبية والاكتفاء بها. هذا سيكون انتحاراً لا محالة".ـ
ان كان مدير شرطة البصرة يصرح بأن 20 في المئة فقط من ضباطه يأتمرون بإمرته، فلا ندري عما سيصرح به مدراء شرطة بغداد أو الناصرية أو العمارة أو الكوت. فلا شك أن الميليشيات الشيعية تشكل سلطة يفوق وجودها ونفوذها وهيبتها سلطة الدولة. لذا فإنه في مثل هذه الحالة لا تكون الدولة موجودة، وانما في طور التكوين ومدى تكامل تكوينها يعتمد على مدى قدرتها بالقضاء على هذه الميليشيات. والقضاء عليها أو حلها لا يعني أبداً تحويل أفرادها الى الشرطة والجيش، والا سيصرح مدير الشرطة في العام المقبل بأن 5 في المئة فقط من الضباط يأتمرون بأوامره. لقد تناست حكومة الجعفري، وقد تتناسى الحكومة القادمة هذا التحدي الموجه الى الحكومة المركزية من قبل الميليشيات الشيعية، وبذلك فهي تخلت عن الجزء الأهم من مسؤوليتها باحتكار العنف وتطبيق القانون.ـ
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الحكومة العراقية المقبلة والميليشيات الشيعية
حامد الحمود

 
Imad

Witness the fumbling ignorance of the 'mightiest power' as they slip down skidding on their asses:

"U.S. officials were warned for more than two years that Shiite Muslim militias were infiltrating Iraq's security forces and taking control of neighborhoods, but they failed to take action to counteract the threat, Iraqi and American officials said.
Now American officials call the militias the primary security concern in Iraq, blaming them for more civilian deaths than the Sunni Muslim insurgency.
U.S. officials concede that they did not act, in part because they were focused on fighting the Sunni-dominated insurgency and on recruiting and training Iraqi security forces.
"Last year, as we worked through the problem set, that [militias] wasn't a problem set we focused on," Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, the top American military spokesman, said at a recent news briefing.
U.S. inaction gave the militias time to become a major force inside and outside the Iraqi government, and American officials acknowledge that dislodging them now would be difficult.
Among U.S. officials' missteps:
White House and Pentagon officials ignored a stream of warnings from American intelligence agencies about the mounting danger posed mainly by two powerful Shiite militias, the Badr Organization and the Mahdi Army.
A group of high-ranking Iraqis appointed in 2004 to persuade militia leaders to disband their groups received no funding and was allowed to wither away.
U.S. diplomats in Baghdad were slow to recognize that the majority Shiite population's ascent to political power would expand rather than diminish militia activity.
Acting against the Shiite militias would have raised doubts about the administration's reliance on training largely Shiite security forces to replace U.S. troops in Iraq.
The American military's inability to curb the Sunni insurgency also played a role, American officials said. As the insurgency continued to kill Shiite civilians, Shiites came to see the militias as their only reliable means of protection.
In the weeks since the February bombing of a Shiite shrine in the town of Samarra, the militias and their allies in the Interior Ministry are thought to have been responsible for the deaths of hundreds, if not thousands, of Sunnis, who have been shot, hanged or tortured.
How U.S. inaction led to rise of militias

And Negrponte is asking for a $900 million budget for next year, to improve their 'Intelligence'!! That is right , their intelligence.
 
just as bad!!!!!!!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4915172.stm

since the US-led invasion, gay people are being killed

They blame the increase in violence on the growing influence of religious figures and militia groups in Iraq since Saddam Hussein was ousted.

Sistani's official website calls for gay men to be executed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
the islamic domination of iraq is shameful

these shia politicians and kurd politicians are ripping off iraqi money left right and centre

it is like a religious freak-show there now. Conform to radical Islam or get shot (it seems)

religion domination has no place in civilization
 
إن كل الذين رأوا عز الدين سليم على شاشات التلفزيون العراقي، وفي حركته السياسية على امتداد فترة المجلس وولايته كرئيس، المناضل والإنسان والعابد والمثقف الإسلامي والوطني.

الطامة الكبــرى، أن نوري كامل الشخصية الثانية في حزب الدعوة ـ كما يحبذ أن يطلق على نفسه ـ لم يحضر مجلس الفاتحة على روح الشهيد أبي ياسين!! فتصوروا مدى الحماقة السياسية التي يرتكبها هذا «القيادي» الذي شاءت الأقدار أن يكون في هذا الموقع المتقدم في حزب الدعوة. لذلك يعتقد كثيرون، أن شخصاً بهذا المستوى من ضيق الصدر، وكيده لأخوة المصير الإسلامي والوطني، كيف يمثل أعرق حزب إسلامي في العراق؟

والمشكلة الأكبــر، أنه يغلّف حقده هذا بحرصه على الدعوة الإسلامية، وعدم الاعتراف بالمنشقين دفاعاً عن الدكتور الجعفري، بينما الوسط الإسلامي العراقي، وفئات كثيرة في الدعوة، يعرفون حجم الجفوة بين كامل والسيد الجعفري، ويعرفون أيضاً أن نوري كامل لم يوّد الجعفري في حياته.

فهل يصلح أن يكون هذا الشخص، الرجل الثاني في تنظيم قدم آلاف الضحايا من أجل رؤية العراق حراً آمناً مستقراً.؟

لا توجد مفردة أفضل من كلمة (ديكتاتور) يمكن أن توصم بها شخصية (المالكي) وتلك المفردة لم نأت بها من جيوبنا، بل هي كلمة أطلقها عضو مكتب سياسي في الحزب عمل طويلاً مع المالكي، وافترق عنه وغادر إلى أستراليا احتجاجاً على سلوكيات الدكتاتور.

http://www.kitabat.com/almameeer_1.htm
 
looks like jafri and shahristani have been sacked and replaced. it is reported that there is new deputy speakers (wasnt that held by shahristani?) and new PM candidate.

Not surprising. They have had chance after chance to make improvements and meanwhile iraq has gone from bad to worse.

however if the insurgency had any brains they'd concentrate on military targets but it seems that they, or those they associated with are also prepared to kill Iraqis to get to the occupiers. this is stupid and plain wrong.

it seems that it is not just jafri and his shia group that is making a hash of things!
 
Riverbend, A Royal Visit...: “For the first time in many years, I fear death.” [Bibi Z.] said last night to no one in particular, as we sat around after dinner, sipping tea. We all objected, wishing her a longer life, telling her she had many years ahead of her, God willing. She shook her head at us like we didn’t understand- couldn’t possibly understand. “All people die eventually and I’ve had a longer life than most Iraqis- today children and young people are dying. I only fear death because I was born under a foreign occupation… I never dreamed I would die under one.”
 
Where Date Palms Grow, The Deal with the Pigeons: There is no Deal between people walking on the pavements and MoI Commandos, what makes matters worse is what happened three weeks ago in "Tahreer" Square right in front of the Hurriya "Freedom" monument downtown Baghdad. Two Girls going to school on a Thursday Morning were overrun by hurrying MoI Commando cars speeding on the pavement of the monument because their was a traffic Jam in the Square itself...

They never stopped..neither did they look back..

Both girls died immediately in front of dozens of people.

The police car standing in the square tried to rush them to the emergency Hospital, but the Girls were dead already.

Now, what would their parents think, two young children going in the morning to school, never arriving there, then somebody tells them we are sorry they are dead.

When you overrun an Animal in the street you at least look back and consider what you did, have we been degraded to below that?

I'm sorry but this is how it is, in the every day life in Hell city "Baghdad" ,Republic of Iraq.
 
A Citizen of Mosul, The new Iraq
 
A Star from Mosul, On Turning 18!
 
Inspectors Find More Torture at Iraqi Jails
 
Seating of Iraqi government may not hasten U.S. troop withdrawal (Surprise!)
 
New leader is greeted with death, defiance and doubt: Mr al-Maliki’s choice of interior minister will be an early indication of how he hopes to bring the militia into the security services. The incumbent has been accused of running one of the most vicious gangs in Baghdad.
 
Newsweek, Stuck in the Hot Zone: ... [T]he U.S. government has never drawn up plans for "permanent" military bases, even when it ended up staying for half a century.
 
xymphora, The hypocrisy over Hamas: The former leader of the Mossad, Efraim Halevy, discloses in a new book that the King of Jordan in 1997 conveyed to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu an an offer from the Hamas leadership to reach an understanding on a thirty-year cease-fire. The offer reached Netanyahu a few days after the Israeli assassination attempt on Hamas leader Khaled Meshal, an early example of the Israeli policy of ‘targeted assassination’, and an attempt which, needless to say, voided the offer. It is worthwhile to consider facts like this in the current political atmosphere when all we hear is talk of how illegitimate Hamas is for failing, in essence, to give up the right of the Palestinians to defend themselves against an illegal occupation, a right enshrined in international law.
 
xymphora, Gorilla theater: The play “My Name Is Rachel Corrie”, effectively censored in New York by the pusillanimous actions of James Nicola and the New York Theater Workshop, is receiving one reading in Toronto, to be held at a secret time and place! Has it come to the point where the Israel Lobby is so all-powerful where even the slightest implied criticism of Zionism has to be held in secret? Will discussions of Israel have to be held like the planning sessions of Solidarity in Poland? Will copies of the play be passed around like Samizdat material in the Soviet Union? Will anti-Zionists have to recognize each other by secret handshakes? I have three suggestions:

1. There should be a boycott of the New York Theater Workshop until it gets around to staging the play.
2. Since it falls into the category of forbidden literature, it would make the perfect subject for a ‘happening’ or ‘guerilla theater’, where suddenly in a crowded public place a production breaks out.
3. The attack on the play is an attack on the theater, and it only requires one young woman to play the part. As a form of protest for freedom of the theater, very brave directors should plant it into other ‘legitimate’ plays.

The main enemy of Zionism is truth.
 
Kurt Nimmo, Condi and the Bush Monarchy Above the Law: The AIPAC case is a struggle between Zionists and Israel First traitors and the “national security” apparatus in the United States. Israel needs the United States military to fight its wars of conquest and destruction in the Middle East and the process is well underway with the Straussian neocons breathing the rarified air at the top of the dung heap with a commanding view of the White House, Congress, and the Pentagon.
 
Iranian mad mullah's and their puppets ARE running Iraq!

Check out the BBC

Authorities in Iran are to crack down on women failing to follow the regime's definition of good Islamic dress. Some 200 extra police are to patrol the streets of Tehran confronting women who reveal ankles, sport thin headscarves or wear short or tight jackets.

Those found to be in breach of Iran's Islamic dress code could face instant penalty fines.

People walking pets or men sporting outlandish hairstyles could also face fines, of up to $55 (£31), said Tehran's police chief, Mortaza Talai.

Iran's clerical establishment says it wants to protect the values of the country's Islamic revolution against a corrupting Western influence.

PITY IRAQ IS BEING CORRUPTED BY THEIR VALUES
 
Michel Chossudovsky, Pentagon implements Global Military Policing; Second 9/11 to provide an "Opportunity" to Intervene: The following report raises some very serious concerns. It points to the involvement of US special forces in countries which do not represent a threat to the US and with which the US is not at war. The SOCOM program essentially carries out the mandate of the 2000 Project for a New American Century, which contemplated the sending in of Special Forces in "non theater war" situations. These operations were described in the PNAC as part of the so-called "constabulary functions".

To extend its reach to more countries, SOCOM is increasing by 13,000 the number of Special Operations troops, including Special Forces soldiers skilled in language and working with indigenous militaries, and Delta Force operatives and Navy SEAL teams that form clandestine "special mission units" engaged in reconnaissance, intelligence gathering and man-hunting. Already, SOCOM is seeing its biggest deployments in history, with 7,000 troops overseas today, but the majority have been concentrated in Iraq and Afghanistan, with 85 percent last year in the Middle East, Central Asia or the Horn of Africa.
 
Gilles Munier, The “Great Kurdistan” threat
 
Nuclear Information Project, Nuclear War Plan : the nuclear option in Global Strike; Full Operational Capability by September 2006: This chronology lists the most important of the developments that led to the creation of the Pentagon's newest and most offensive strike plan. Although Global Strike is primarily a non-nuclear mission, the information collected for this chronology reveal that nuclear weapons are surprisingly prominent in both the planning and command structure for Global Strike.
 
(Posting in haste, before the world comes to an end)
John Stanton, Strike Iran, Watch Pakistan and Turkey Fall: “Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.” John Lennon
 
is this evelyn a spammer? because she insists on posting messages that have nothing to do with the lead topic and seems to drown everyone elses messages with her own off topic messages
 
(One for the road!)
xymphora, Meet the new Osama, Imad Mughniyah: The Bush Administration needs a new terrorist attack before the fall. It has to keep control of Congress to avoid any impeachment problems, but must keep the polls close enough to be able to continue to use the crooked voting machines without the American public becoming suspicious and trashing them before the next presidential election ...
 
does that mean there'l be room for others?
 
Imad

With the cheerleading going on from the background by the usual chorus of reactionary ideologues, the Bush Administration is now planning to (for example) jail reporters for the heinous (sic.) "crime" of having
revealed America's secret, CIA-run torture prisons and secret, illegal CIA- and NSA-run spying programs.

In other words, in today's America, it's NOT a crime to illegally spy on and torture people or to invade and destroy entire nations, but it IS a crime to tell anyone that you're doing it.

Does anyone reading this e-mail dare to argue with me, when I say that America isn't a democracy any more?

In Leak Cases, New Pressure on Journalists April 30, 2006
 
Madashell, it is not as simple as you claim because democracy means different things in different countries and it means different things to different people.

There are several shades of grey. There is no real text book definition of 'democracy' because it changes with time.

In every country, the government will wield a certain amount of control because it HAS to. There has to be control and regulation of all societies.

I'd like to know exactly what your idea of democracy is - it will probably be very different to what other people think a democracy is.

People in the West are watched and regulated on a daily basis by CCTV, data kept on computerized databases that can stop you from getting a mortgage or a loan, identity cards; Big Brother is always watching. However, people just accept it but still feel they live in a democracy because their personal freedoms are still very much left unblemished.

The real acid test comes when you look at how a government treats its own people in certain respects.

For example if the Iraqi Press treated the former Iraqi regime in the same way that the British Press treated the British government this week, they'd be imprisoned, tortured and executed forthwith.
The British Press have literally pulled the Blair government to pieces this week by printing scandal after scandal on Blair's top ministers, inc. the Deputy Prime Minister.

American people will still feel they are living in a true democracy despite the threatened Press gagging.

If the American government one day builds secret torture chambers underground and secret prisons in America run by intelligence officers that are there to punish American citizens for speaking out of turn, or being of a certain religion or belonging to a certain political party, then I'd say they've lost democracy.

It's going to take more than a bit of Press gagging to persuade the average person that they no longer live in a democracy.

So yes, I would argue that America is still a democracy because it still has the personal freedoms on home turf to warrant it.
 
Imad

Here is what the United States REALLY thinks of us pathetic, wimpy, left-liberal dope-smoking, Commie terrorist-coddling pinkos up here in Canada: we're sissies because of our queasiness about jailing and torturing an (obviously innocent) Maher Arar; so, obviously, we can't be trusted as loyal allies in their "war on terrorism" (translation: war on
poor, nonwhite people, all over the rest of the world). It's all the fault of our lenient, softie "liberal" immigration system, you see.

(Sidenote: All of the 9/11 conspirators were let into the U.S. by their own immigration system; none of them came from Canada, in spite of repeated lies to the contrary by various pundits of the U.S. radical Right. But the average American "knows" that they came from Canada, because Ann Coulter told them so.)

After all, if you want to be America's friend, you have to be willing to falsely imprison, torture, murder, invade and oppress; it's the American Way!

Shape up, Canada, or you're next on the list after Iran!

Citing 'liberal' immigration laws, U.S. blasts Canada on terrorism April 29, 2006
 
OH MAN! come on! American journalists were just as much responsible for putting a 'positive spin' on the Iraq invasion! They went along with the administration in glamourizing war and demonizing a country that was no threat to the US at all!

One network actually made a documentary called "Best of the Bombs"....it showed the 'best' of the bomb raids on Baghdad! Why then did they not make a similar documentary titled "The best of 9/11"? Answer is obvious.
Also, the networks turned down anti-war ads made by celebs (like Susan Sarandon) and other famous personalities, no matter how much money was offered.
The american media is every bit as bad as the administration! So their silencing will make very little difference anyway.

Did they, the US media, challenge their government like the BBC and Channel 4 did in the UK on many occasions? No of course not because they are cowards and unethical patriots.

In any case, a silencing of the media is not the be all and end all of a democracy. There is more to it than that.

I am not arguing the case for Saddam by the way. Its up to the UN to get plans in place for dealing with heinous regimes like the Saddam regime. Unfortunately they are too damned lame to do anything at all about the criminals that are running these countries and making their citizens life a misery.
Its always the same story, the antiwar mob never have any answers for dealing with dictators. They are just content to let idiots like Saddam stay in power forever.
However the prowar mob simply make the world a worse place in one swoop.

If the UN got their act together, all these problems could be prevented totally. A very tough line with dictators would be a good deterrent.
 
“Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have.”
-- Richard Salent, Former President CBS News.

What difference will it make when people like him are silenced? NONE!



"All warfare is based on deception. There is no place where espionage is not used"

Sun-Tzu

Chinese general & military strategist (~400 BC)

This is true even though this quote is a few thousand years old. All leaders have used this tactic, before Sub-Tzu and after him.



“One cannot wage war under present conditions without the support of public opinion, which is tremendously moulded by the press and other forms of propaganda.” General Douglas MacArthur

This American Press were perfect for this cause; they were easily moulded
 
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